{"id":18858,"date":"2024-10-23T05:00:23","date_gmt":"2024-10-23T10:00:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/?p=18858"},"modified":"2024-10-22T12:09:11","modified_gmt":"2024-10-22T17:09:11","slug":"season-24-episode-8-wrestling-with-the-cross-what-does-the-atonement-really-mean","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/2024\/10\/season-24-episode-8-wrestling-with-the-cross-what-does-the-atonement-really-mean\/","title":{"rendered":"Season 24: Episode 8 | Wrestling with the Cross: What does the Atonement Really Mean?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In today\u2019s episode, Ruth and guests Rev. Dr. Prince Rivers and Rev. Dr. David Hughes navigate the depths of the future of Christian spirituality through the lenses of the atonement. The discussion confronts traditional interpretations of the cross and atonement, addressing challenges posed by modern perspectives. Ruth, Prince, and David explore theories from historical and contemporary theologians, such as penal substitution, while highlighting how these interpretations impact real-life contexts, especially among marginalized communities and the oppressed. The conversation concludes with reflections on faith, suffering, and power, emphasizing transformation through love over wrath, with a heartfelt prayer for divine guidance and liberation.<\/p>\n<p>This season we are exploring the future of Christian spirituality. Based on her own experience and the lives of people she accompanies on the journey, Ruth has been naming what she is noticing and observing regarding the future of Christian <em>spirituality<\/em>\u2013 how the Spirit is moving and how we can align ourselves to participate in the future God is leading us into. Elements she is naming include respect for the role of desire; emphasis on spiritual direction; welcoming and inclusive; committed to justice; and more. This season Ruth will sit down with thoughtful Christian leaders to discuss their thoughts on one of these elements, as it has to do with the future of Christian spirituality. This season was inspired by the Beyond Words series by the same name. Check out those posts <a href=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/tag\/The-Future-of-Christian-Spirituality-Series\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-18859 size-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/PRR-e1729616769524-150x150.jpeg\" alt=\"PRINCE RIVERS\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/PRR-e1729616769524-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/PRR-e1729616769524-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/PRR-e1729616769524-24x24.jpeg 24w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/PRR-e1729616769524-48x48.jpeg 48w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/PRR-e1729616769524-96x96.jpeg 96w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/PRR-e1729616769524.jpeg 390w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/>PRINCE RIVERS<\/strong> is senior pastor of Union Baptist Church in Durham, N.C. He has been a participant in the Pastor-Theologian Program at the Center of Theological Inquiry in Princeton, N.J., and has a B.A. in psychology from Morehouse College and an M.Div. from Duke Divinity School and currently serves as consulting faculty at Duke Divinity School.<\/p>\n<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-18860\" src=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/David-Hughes-150x150.jpeg\" alt=\"David Hughes\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/David-Hughes-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/David-Hughes-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/David-Hughes-1024x1024.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/David-Hughes-768x768.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/David-Hughes-700x700.jpeg 700w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/David-Hughes-1536x1536.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/David-Hughes-24x24.jpeg 24w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/David-Hughes-48x48.jpeg 48w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/David-Hughes-96x96.jpeg 96w, https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/David-Hughes.jpeg 1874w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/>DAVID HUGHES <\/strong>served as a pastor for 37+ years. In 2013, after attending and serving in several <em>Transforming Community<\/em> experiences, he became the Executive Director of the Transforming Center, where he served for a number of years. Currently, he serves as the part-time Ambassador of the TC. He is married to Joani, and they have three adult children, and two grandchildren. His passion is to accompany church leaders and congregations in their journey to be spiritually formed and transformed in this most challenging era of the Christian church.<\/p>\n<hr style=\"clear: both;\" \/>\n<p><a class=\"button\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/strengthening-soul-your-leadership-ruth-haley-barton\/id1214483830\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">SUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS<\/a><\/p>\n<p>You can also access podcast on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/podcast\/ruth-haley-barton\/strengthening-the-soul-of-your-leadership?refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stitcher<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/41tz8kmZTi7wyYakvWUKZz\">Spotify<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px); height: 150px;\" title=\"S24 Ep 8 | Wrestling with the Cross: What does the Atonement Really Mean?\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=b4hw8-170fc98-pb&amp;from=pb6admin&amp;share=1&amp;download=1&amp;rtl=0&amp;fonts=Arial&amp;skin=1&amp;font-color=&amp;logo_link=episode_page&amp;btn-skin=7\" width=\"100%\" height=\"150\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"button outline\" href=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/strengthening-the-soul-of-your-leadership-podcast\/season-twenty-four\/\">Listen to other episodes from Season 24<\/a> <a class=\"button-secondary outline\" href=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/strengthening-the-soul-of-your-leadership-podcast\/\">Access past podcast seasons<\/a><\/p>\n<hr style=\"clear: both;\" \/>\n<p><strong>Mentioned in this episode:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3ziOBpR\">The Cross and the Lynching Tree<\/a> by James Cone<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3Ma1YvB\">Invitation to a Journey<\/a> by Robert Muholland<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/4f7mFnZ\">The Deeper Journey<\/a> by Robert Muholland<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Music Credit:<br \/>\n<\/strong>Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist<br \/>\nYesterday Today Forever from <em>Music in Solitude<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Join us for our upcoming Online Oasis: <strong>When the Road is Dark and Dim:\u00a0 Navigating the Dark Night, Depression, and Grief on the Spiritual Journey. <\/strong>In this Online Oasis event, Dr. Bob Watson, a licensed clinical psychologist, joins Ruth to explore the differences and the overlaps between the dark night of the soul, depression, and the experience of grief on the spiritual journey. Whether you are wondering about this for yourself,\u00a0 for someone you love, or\u00a0 someone you are accompanying as a pastor, psychologist or spiritual director, this conversation will equip you to more wisely discern what is really going on, help you learn how to welcome God\u2019s presence into this aspect of the journey, and identify the appropriate resources for each.\u00a0 \u00a0 It is ideal for:\u00a0 pastors, spiritual directors, psychologists, individuals, spiritual friends. Join us on Wednesday, October 30 from 12-1:30 CST. Learn more and register <a href=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/online-oasis\/\">HERE<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Support the podcast! <strong>This season patrons will receive special bonus episodes with each guest, guiding listeners on how to pray into these different topics. <\/strong>Become a patron today by visiting <a href=\"https:\/\/patreon.com\/transformingcenter\">our Patreon page<\/a>!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>The <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/\"><strong>Transforming Center<\/strong><\/a><strong> exists to create space for God to strengthen leaders and transform communities. You are invited to join our next <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/tc\"><strong><em>Transforming Community<\/em><\/strong><\/a><strong>:\u00ae A Two-year Spiritual Formation Experience for Leaders.<\/strong>\u00a0 Delivered in nine quarterly retreats, this practice-based learning opportunity is grounded in the conviction that the best thing you bring to leadership is your own transforming self! Learn more and apply <a href=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/transforming-community\/\">HERE<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"copywrite\">*this post contains affiliate links<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In today\u2019s episode, Ruth and guests Rev. Dr. Prince Rivers and Rev. 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