{"id":18338,"date":"2024-03-06T06:00:37","date_gmt":"2024-03-06T12:00:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/?p=18338"},"modified":"2024-03-05T14:10:38","modified_gmt":"2024-03-05T20:10:38","slug":"season-22-episode-3-what-does-gods-glory-have-to-do-with-our-suffering","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/2024\/03\/season-22-episode-3-what-does-gods-glory-have-to-do-with-our-suffering\/","title":{"rendered":"Season 22: Episode 3 | What Does God\u2019s Glory Have to Do With Our Suffering?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>What does God\u2019s glory have to do with our suffering? How do we wrestle with the crucifixion of Christ and the issue of atonement as it relates to suffering and God\u2019s anger? How do we determine when we are the cause of our own suffering, when it\u2019s someone else\u2019s doing or when we are being invited by God to join in the suffering of Jesus? Ruth and Curt tackle these questions and more in today\u2019s episode. Over on Patreon, Curt guides us through a practice designed to help us discern the cause or invitation of an aspect of our own suffering and hold it with God.<\/p>\n<p>This season, psychiatrist, speaker, and author Curt Thompson, MD joins us to discuss suffering and how it is the place where durable and true hope is formed. We will be working through the ideas in his new book,<em> The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope.<\/em><\/p>\n<hr style=\"clear: both;\" \/>\n<p><a class=\"button\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/strengthening-soul-your-leadership-ruth-haley-barton\/id1214483830\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">SUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS<\/a><\/p>\n<p>You can also access podcast on\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/podcast\/ruth-haley-barton\/strengthening-the-soul-of-your-leadership?refid=stpr\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Stitcher<\/a>\u00a0and <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/41tz8kmZTi7wyYakvWUKZz\">Spotify<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"S22 Ep 3 | What Does God\u2019s Glory Have to Do With Our Suffering?\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);height:150px;\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=77n7p-1590010-pb&#038;from=pb6admin&#038;share=1&#038;download=1&#038;rtl=0&#038;fonts=Arial&#038;skin=1&#038;font-color=&#038;logo_link=episode_page&#038;btn-skin=7\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a class=\"button outline\" href=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/strengthening-the-soul-of-your-leadership-podcast\/season-twenty-two\/\">Listen to other episodes from Season 22<\/a> <a class=\"button-secondary outline\" href=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/strengthening-the-soul-of-your-leadership-podcast\/\">Access past podcast seasons<\/a><\/p>\n<hr style=\"clear: both;\" \/>\n<p><strong>Mentioned in the episode:<br \/>\n<\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/4b2Sa1g\"><em>The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope<\/em><\/a><em>\u00a0 <\/em>by Curt Thompson<br \/>\n\u201cGod was in Christ reconciling all things to himself\u201d\u2014II Corinthians 5:18,19 (NJKV)<\/p>\n<p>We are now accepting applications for <em>Transforming Community<\/em> 20! Use the code Podcast20 to receive $50 off your application fee. Learn more and apply <a href=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/transforming-community\/\">HERE<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>This season will not follow the lectionary readings as closely as past seasons. Scripture for Lent 2024 can be found <a href=\"https:\/\/lectionary.library.vanderbilt.edu\/lections.php?year=B&amp;season=Lent\">HERE.<\/a> A digital version of our reflections for Lent resource,<em> <a href=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.christianbook.com\/lent-reflections-cycle-pdf-personal-use\/pd\/34214DF?event=ESRCG\">Lent: A Season of Returning <\/a><\/em>is available for purchase in our bookstore.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Music Credit:<br \/>\n<\/strong>Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist<br \/>\nMourn from <em>Lent Music in Solitude<br \/>\n<\/em>Returning from <em>Lent Music in Solitude<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Support the podcast! <strong>This season patrons will receive weekly bonus episodes entitled \u201cThe Work,\u201d where Curt and Ruth will discuss and provide practical and applicable practices that open us up to God\u2019s presence in our suffering so that durable hope can be formed. <\/strong>Become a patron today by visiting <a href=\"https:\/\/patreon.com\/transformingcenter\">our Patreon page<\/a>!<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>The <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/transformingcenter.org\/\"><strong>Transforming Center<\/strong><\/a><strong> exists to create space for God to strengthen leaders and transform communities. 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